Kabayan Bert -
REUR suggestion to declare Martial Law, who do
you expect to execute it?
The incumbent administration which is peppered
with innumerable charges---factfual or fictional,
of being the most corrupt government since the
islands of 7,000 (to borrow the lingo of JM) turned
to become a Republic?
If we'll rely with the military establishment, the
Armed Forces, headed by General Ibrado, granting
that the current Chief-of-Staff is a man of integrity;
nonetheless, we would find ourselves in a deeper
moral and legal quagmire.
What is the mandate of the Armed Forces to rule
the nation?
What is our assurance that the jailers of the false
leaders of today, will not turn out to become false
leaders themselves after a year or two?
In any social contract, the other party must have
the consent---kasalan man, or business partnership
both must signify their willing volition that none
of them were coerced.
To place the recidivist false national political leaders
in straight jackets sounds romantic.
But...but, by what virtue the implementors of Martial
Law draw their authority from?
Masalimuot ang surilanin ng luhaang bansang Pilipinas.
Hay, bayan ko...
Thursday, September 3, 2009
BOB GABUNA 4 Sept 09
I have no problem when the state employs police
powers to protect the people from threats both
external and internal.
I know how to shoot, in fact, I am a sharpshooter
with a rifle. I could cock a Cal .45 pistol with a
single hand.
My problem, however, is:
Who is going to administer Martial Law? And for
how long?
How are we going to install the Martial Law rule?
Via coup d'etat?
Via revolution initiated by the citizenry?
How much percentage is tolerable as collateral
damage?
Who shall determine that enough of the internicine
fight is enough?
What are the determinants?
It is easy to start a civil war. But how easy is it to
declare cessation of hostilities?
Yes, there is a need to uproot the weeds that grows
in our garden. But we have to be careful in the
weeding process; otherwise we would be uprooting
wheat, rather than the weeds.
I don't have pat answer to the problem that beset
the land. But I had been there done that as far as
Martial Law is concerned, EDSA 1 and 2, and this
God Save the Queen failed adventures (I did not
join).
The cure, Martial Law, might even turn out worst than
the ailment that afflicts the land.
What I believe is: a Nehemiah like leader who has a
heart for the people, and humble enough to fear GOD.
Bob
powers to protect the people from threats both
external and internal.
I know how to shoot, in fact, I am a sharpshooter
with a rifle. I could cock a Cal .45 pistol with a
single hand.
My problem, however, is:
Who is going to administer Martial Law? And for
how long?
How are we going to install the Martial Law rule?
Via coup d'etat?
Via revolution initiated by the citizenry?
How much percentage is tolerable as collateral
damage?
Who shall determine that enough of the internicine
fight is enough?
What are the determinants?
It is easy to start a civil war. But how easy is it to
declare cessation of hostilities?
Yes, there is a need to uproot the weeds that grows
in our garden. But we have to be careful in the
weeding process; otherwise we would be uprooting
wheat, rather than the weeds.
I don't have pat answer to the problem that beset
the land. But I had been there done that as far as
Martial Law is concerned, EDSA 1 and 2, and this
God Save the Queen failed adventures (I did not
join).
The cure, Martial Law, might even turn out worst than
the ailment that afflicts the land.
What I believe is: a Nehemiah like leader who has a
heart for the people, and humble enough to fear GOD.
Bob
NELSON A. PAGUYO, 4 Sept 2009
Hi Dennis,
Thank you for your suggestion. Actually OFCI already has programs which we believe will rally some form of unity. I am not sure whether you’re a member of OFCI. If you are you should have received copies of our community development programs posted several times in the past and of which SHNP is a part. The unfortunate thing is very few wants to take the leadership positions to move the programs. Just as an example people were nominated to become officers of the OFCI Philippine Chapter. Out of the many recommendations only one acknowledged the appointment. And there is problem. Why wait to participate until success is at hand. It is starting projects that are the most critical stage of any program, don’t you think so? Bob’s story of the Canadian Pinoys clearly confirmed such behavior. Why this is the case is the intension of the thread I started.
OFCI’s SHNP (self–help nutrition program) was started in March 2009 in the different areas of the Philippines. So far we have already over 40 barangays involved and expanding rapidly. Our community development programs are all self–help and self propagating. We could do a better job if we have the resources to provide seed–moneys to these communities. Again we have called for help thru donations. Guess what none came except from the few members who are already active and willing to put their time, efforts and moneys where their mouth is.
I encourage you Dennis to participate in OFCI’s projects to help rally our people. If you want to help besides actually participating your donation will be most welcome.
Take care and have a good day.
Nelson
PS: Whoever is reading I invite you to become a member of OFCI – if you are a person of action and not otherwise. This is a call for UNITY you bet.
Thank you for your suggestion. Actually OFCI already has programs which we believe will rally some form of unity. I am not sure whether you’re a member of OFCI. If you are you should have received copies of our community development programs posted several times in the past and of which SHNP is a part. The unfortunate thing is very few wants to take the leadership positions to move the programs. Just as an example people were nominated to become officers of the OFCI Philippine Chapter. Out of the many recommendations only one acknowledged the appointment. And there is problem. Why wait to participate until success is at hand. It is starting projects that are the most critical stage of any program, don’t you think so? Bob’s story of the Canadian Pinoys clearly confirmed such behavior. Why this is the case is the intension of the thread I started.
OFCI’s SHNP (self–help nutrition program) was started in March 2009 in the different areas of the Philippines. So far we have already over 40 barangays involved and expanding rapidly. Our community development programs are all self–help and self propagating. We could do a better job if we have the resources to provide seed–moneys to these communities. Again we have called for help thru donations. Guess what none came except from the few members who are already active and willing to put their time, efforts and moneys where their mouth is.
I encourage you Dennis to participate in OFCI’s projects to help rally our people. If you want to help besides actually participating your donation will be most welcome.
Take care and have a good day.
Nelson
PS: Whoever is reading I invite you to become a member of OFCI – if you are a person of action and not otherwise. This is a call for UNITY you bet.
DENNIS DE GUZMAN 4 Sept 2009
Mr Nelson Paguyo,
OFCI
Sir:
I remember that there were many suggestions already in the "library" of the OFCI about concrete projects that offer solutions to our country's problems. Why don't the OFCI use those projects as a rallying point for UNITY. The OFCI has taken the first step. It is about time to move forward again. Make those projects successful and people will follow. As they say, "You cannot argue with success." Ask for support for those projects so it can become bigger success affecting more lives.
To start something big you can start with something small but scalable. You do not need to worry about unity, you only need people who are "believers" in the cause. After a while, a small project can become a movement for nation building.
I am sure i am not the only one who wants to hear about the progress of those projects.
Sincerely,
Dennis de Guzman
- isang ex-OFW mula sa Geneva (na ngayon ay nasa Pilipinas)
OFCI
Sir:
I remember that there were many suggestions already in the "library" of the OFCI about concrete projects that offer solutions to our country's problems. Why don't the OFCI use those projects as a rallying point for UNITY. The OFCI has taken the first step. It is about time to move forward again. Make those projects successful and people will follow. As they say, "You cannot argue with success." Ask for support for those projects so it can become bigger success affecting more lives.
To start something big you can start with something small but scalable. You do not need to worry about unity, you only need people who are "believers" in the cause. After a while, a small project can become a movement for nation building.
I am sure i am not the only one who wants to hear about the progress of those projects.
Sincerely,
Dennis de Guzman
- isang ex-OFW mula sa Geneva (na ngayon ay nasa Pilipinas)
BOB GABUNA 4 Sept 09
DITO tayo na bog down sa "how", eh.
I recall my readings in military history. Circa
WW II, a two star rank general---a strategic
thinker, thought aloud addressing his staff:
Do you have an idea how we could immobilize
these German U-boats?
The following day, a brash young lieutenant
barged the inner sanctorum of his boss: Sir,
I have the idea.
Two Star General: At ease, boy. Spill it out.
Brash 2nd Lt: Why don't we heat up the floor
of Atlantic Ocean to compel these U-boats to
surface?
Two Star General: Brilliant idea son. But
how are we going to carry it out?
Brash 2nd Lt: Sir, I gave the concept, it's
the turn of others to work out the "how"!
Your turn...
Bob
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I recall my readings in military history. Circa
WW II, a two star rank general---a strategic
thinker, thought aloud addressing his staff:
Do you have an idea how we could immobilize
these German U-boats?
The following day, a brash young lieutenant
barged the inner sanctorum of his boss: Sir,
I have the idea.
Two Star General: At ease, boy. Spill it out.
Brash 2nd Lt: Why don't we heat up the floor
of Atlantic Ocean to compel these U-boats to
surface?
Two Star General: Brilliant idea son. But
how are we going to carry it out?
Brash 2nd Lt: Sir, I gave the concept, it's
the turn of others to work out the "how"!
Your turn...
Bob
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ANACLETO BELLEZA MILLENDEZ
TEAMWORK is UNITY. My formula for TEAMWORK (TW) is"
TW=3Cs+3Ps
where C represents Communication, Coordination and Cooperation
P represents Professionalism, Production and Perfection
TW=3Cs+3Ps
where C represents Communication, Coordination and Cooperation
P represents Professionalism, Production and Perfection
JM NEPOMUCENO, 4 Sept. 09
The PRIMARY responsibility rests on the FILIPINO VOTERS, the majority of whom placed those people at the top.
This is a MAJOR CHANGE in ATTITUDE required of US, FILIPINO CITIZENS.
WE must accept COLLECTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY for ALL THE MESS that WE have been ALLOWING to happen over and over again since JANUARY 2001.
The SILENT MAJORITY who do NOT get out into the streets to EXPRESS their COLLECTIVE SOVEREIGN WILL is PRIMARILY accountable and responsible BY DEFAULT.
JM
This is a MAJOR CHANGE in ATTITUDE required of US, FILIPINO CITIZENS.
WE must accept COLLECTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY for ALL THE MESS that WE have been ALLOWING to happen over and over again since JANUARY 2001.
The SILENT MAJORITY who do NOT get out into the streets to EXPRESS their COLLECTIVE SOVEREIGN WILL is PRIMARILY accountable and responsible BY DEFAULT.
JM
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